Comments on: DRM - What Does it Stand For? What Should it Stand For? http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/25/drm-what-does-it-stand-for-what-should-it-stand-for/ The thoughts of an Aspie on Technology, Politics, and Everything. - The Answer isn't always 42. Tue, 06 Jan 2009 05:00:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1.3 By: Auly http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/25/drm-what-does-it-stand-for-what-should-it-stand-for/#comment-359 Auly Wed, 25 Jul 2007 12:52:49 +0000 http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/25/drm-what-does-it-stand-for-what-should-it-stand-for/#comment-359 Let them spend billions on it so hobbiest can break it for pennies. What all that money should be spent on is educating the consumer about theft and research into what consumers actually want. Organizations like the RIAA thinking they have more rights to content then the consumer or original maker enough so that they sue both over it time and time again make me sick. This is something that the government is continuing to take away rights of the consumer when it the is the consumer that drives the market and makes these companies and organizations possible. So Just like Josh talk to rep in congress and make sure they know that if they don't turn this around on all fronts they won't be getting your votes. It's the only thing that congress understands especially about technology is "VOTES". Unfortunately these same people have to make the choices for the rest of us in what we see and how we can do a great many things. From internet radio to simply playing a cd/dvd on the computer. Let them spend billions on it so hobbiest can break it for pennies. What all that money should be spent on is educating the consumer about theft and research into what consumers actually want. Organizations like the RIAA thinking they have more rights to content then the consumer or original maker enough so that they sue both over it time and time again make me sick.

This is something that the government is continuing to take away rights of the consumer when it the is the consumer that drives the market and makes these companies and organizations possible. So Just like Josh talk to rep in congress and make sure they know that if they don’t turn this around on all fronts they won’t be getting your votes. It’s the only thing that congress understands especially about technology is “VOTES”. Unfortunately these same people have to make the choices for the rest of us in what we see and how we can do a great many things. From internet radio to simply playing a cd/dvd on the computer.

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By: Josh the Aspie http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/25/drm-what-does-it-stand-for-what-should-it-stand-for/#comment-360 Josh the Aspie Wed, 25 Jul 2007 13:23:36 +0000 http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/25/drm-what-does-it-stand-for-what-should-it-stand-for/#comment-360 Hey Auly. First of all, no, don't let them spend billions of dollars to let hobiests break it for pennies. That billion dollar experiment is something we have to pay for because not only is there the cost of research going into it, there is also the cost of implementation on each individual unit. If we don't buy things that have DRM built in, then maybe the industries will get the hint. Heck, I haven't bought a single piece of music in years. Recently my folks had trouble with two older DVD players trying to hook into a brand new LCD TV. One of the component high definition signals wasn't accepted at all by the TV, the other one only displayed in black and white. I'm not sure, but this may have been caused by the fact that it was an HD signal going into a box that has DHCP built in. I'll bring that up more in a subsequent post relating directly to DHCP. Hey Auly.

First of all, no, don’t let them spend billions of dollars to let hobiests break it for pennies. That billion dollar experiment is something we have to pay for because not only is there the cost of research going into it, there is also the cost of implementation on each individual unit.

If we don’t buy things that have DRM built in, then maybe the industries will get the hint. Heck, I haven’t bought a single piece of music in years.

Recently my folks had trouble with two older DVD players trying to hook into a brand new LCD TV. One of the component high definition signals wasn’t accepted at all by the TV, the other one only displayed in black and white. I’m not sure, but this may have been caused by the fact that it was an HD signal going into a box that has DHCP built in.

I’ll bring that up more in a subsequent post relating directly to DHCP.

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By: Auly http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/25/drm-what-does-it-stand-for-what-should-it-stand-for/#comment-361 Auly Wed, 25 Jul 2007 13:46:22 +0000 http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/25/drm-what-does-it-stand-for-what-should-it-stand-for/#comment-361 Your right the answer is to hurt them in their bottom line so they know that the consumer won't stand for it anymore. It's also important to break their existing DRM because companies do see that and even if they try to fight it once they see they are on the losing side many get the picture. At least that is the idea. Your right the answer is to hurt them in their bottom line so they know that the consumer won’t stand for it anymore. It’s also important to break their existing DRM because companies do see that and even if they try to fight it once they see they are on the losing side many get the picture. At least that is the idea.

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By: Ryvaken http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/25/drm-what-does-it-stand-for-what-should-it-stand-for/#comment-362 Ryvaken Wed, 25 Jul 2007 17:08:43 +0000 http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/25/drm-what-does-it-stand-for-what-should-it-stand-for/#comment-362 The big thing that drives people to piracy is the desire to avoid DRM hell. I have a couple of legally purchased ebooks that I haven't been able to read in years -- believe me if I knew how to crack them open I would. The big thing that drives people to piracy is the desire to avoid DRM hell. I have a couple of legally purchased ebooks that I haven’t been able to read in years — believe me if I knew how to crack them open I would.

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By: Josh the Aspie http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/25/drm-what-does-it-stand-for-what-should-it-stand-for/#comment-363 Josh the Aspie Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:30:55 +0000 http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/25/drm-what-does-it-stand-for-what-should-it-stand-for/#comment-363 Breaking encryption isn't piracy though. Generally speaking, I think that the biggest thing that drives people to piracy is wanting a product without having to pay for it. Then again, people sometimes pirate things that just aren't available for purchase yet. Technically speaking, fan subbed Anime is piracy. Breaking encryption isn’t piracy though.

Generally speaking, I think that the biggest thing that drives people to piracy is wanting a product without having to pay for it.

Then again, people sometimes pirate things that just aren’t available for purchase yet. Technically speaking, fan subbed Anime is piracy.

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By: Ryvaken http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/25/drm-what-does-it-stand-for-what-should-it-stand-for/#comment-366 Ryvaken Thu, 26 Jul 2007 20:41:24 +0000 http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/25/drm-what-does-it-stand-for-what-should-it-stand-for/#comment-366 The answer is pi. The answer is pi.

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By: DerImpresario http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/25/drm-what-does-it-stand-for-what-should-it-stand-for/#comment-369 DerImpresario Sat, 28 Jul 2007 05:03:41 +0000 http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/25/drm-what-does-it-stand-for-what-should-it-stand-for/#comment-369 A deeper question is this: To what extent does the artist retain control over his creation? While this is a moot question for works such as the Mona Lisa or Beethoven's 5th Symphony, it's far more relevant for modern expressions. Further, there's the issue of individual vs. collective art - a movie is no more the work of a single individual anymore than a building is built by one man in most cases. Whether individual or corporate, how far does "ownership" of the work extend? I'm fairly sure the courts have wrestled with this question before, but it will likely be a long time before an acceptable solution is hammered out and agreed to, even if reluctantly. A deeper question is this: To what extent does the artist retain control over his creation? While this is a moot question for works such as the Mona Lisa or Beethoven’s 5th Symphony, it’s far more relevant for modern expressions. Further, there’s the issue of individual vs. collective art - a movie is no more the work of a single individual anymore than a building is built by one man in most cases. Whether individual or corporate, how far does “ownership” of the work extend? I’m fairly sure the courts have wrestled with this question before, but it will likely be a long time before an acceptable solution is hammered out and agreed to, even if reluctantly.

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By: Ryvaken http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/25/drm-what-does-it-stand-for-what-should-it-stand-for/#comment-370 Ryvaken Sat, 28 Jul 2007 07:45:26 +0000 http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/25/drm-what-does-it-stand-for-what-should-it-stand-for/#comment-370 Technology, for a multitude of reasons, has advanced to the point where copying media is as trivial as using it -- only concrete, solid objects truly have value anymore. Legality needs to catch up with reality, and the entertainment industry will change, hopefully for the better. Technology, for a multitude of reasons, has advanced to the point where copying media is as trivial as using it — only concrete, solid objects truly have value anymore. Legality needs to catch up with reality, and the entertainment industry will change, hopefully for the better.

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By: Harsan http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/25/drm-what-does-it-stand-for-what-should-it-stand-for/#comment-374 Harsan Sun, 29 Jul 2007 06:46:03 +0000 http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/25/drm-what-does-it-stand-for-what-should-it-stand-for/#comment-374 Mmmmm, enlightened discussion *droools*. DerImpresario: There is a school of thought called "Free Culture", it teaches that the works of today are based on the works of the past, the works of the future are going to be based on the works of today, and to allow the works of the future to come into existence, the works of today must be free to be used. That said, my take on it is as such: I can listen to something on the radio, I can tape it, transfer it to a CD, to a HDD, and it's legal. There are laws protecting that, same as there are laws that allow you to record live TV for personal playback. It's also legal for you to give that tape, or a copy of it, to a friend, if I'm not mistaken. But, from what the current legislation is telling me, I cannot take that copy of a song, stick it on my computer and send it to a friend of mine. That then is piracy. What has happened is a convolution and perversion of what is owned and where the public domain starts. My view, once again: Once a work is out there, it's public domain, it's there for the public to hear, enjoy, copy, and show. What cannot be done is the republishing of the work under a different name. It's healthy, that way. Thing is, the generation that grew up through the revolution of the 60's has, to a large extent, been infected with a selfishness that destroys most common sense. They want all the money, all the power over their music, and they want things to go their way, no matter what their audience thinks. Sonny Bono is a prime example. He stated that copyright should last forever minus a day (taking into account the constitutional requrement for a limit on copyright). I refer you more to a movement called Free Culture "www.free-culture.cc", check out the book, it's free to download, copy, translate (just don't republish it, yo). It details the argument better than I could. Mmmmm, enlightened discussion *droools*. DerImpresario: There is a school of thought called “Free Culture”, it teaches that the works of today are based on the works of the past, the works of the future are going to be based on the works of today, and to allow the works of the future to come into existence, the works of today must be free to be used. That said, my take on it is as such: I can listen to something on the radio, I can tape it, transfer it to a CD, to a HDD, and it’s legal. There are laws protecting that, same as there are laws that allow you to record live TV for personal playback. It’s also legal for you to give that tape, or a copy of it, to a friend, if I’m not mistaken. But, from what the current legislation is telling me, I cannot take that copy of a song, stick it on my computer and send it to a friend of mine. That then is piracy. What has happened is a convolution and perversion of what is owned and where the public domain starts. My view, once again: Once a work is out there, it’s public domain, it’s there for the public to hear, enjoy, copy, and show. What cannot be done is the republishing of the work under a different name. It’s healthy, that way. Thing is, the generation that grew up through the revolution of the 60’s has, to a large extent, been infected with a selfishness that destroys most common sense. They want all the money, all the power over their music, and they want things to go their way, no matter what their audience thinks. Sonny Bono is a prime example. He stated that copyright should last forever minus a day (taking into account the constitutional requrement for a limit on copyright). I refer you more to a movement called Free Culture “www.free-culture.cc”, check out the book, it’s free to download, copy, translate (just don’t republish it, yo). It details the argument better than I could.

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By: Josh the Aspie’s Blog » Blog Archive » The DMCA http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/25/drm-what-does-it-stand-for-what-should-it-stand-for/#comment-376 Josh the Aspie’s Blog » Blog Archive » The DMCA Sun, 29 Jul 2007 08:56:05 +0000 http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/25/drm-what-does-it-stand-for-what-should-it-stand-for/#comment-376 [...] DCMA makes it illegal to produce, sell, or distribute any device designed to defeat any form of Digital Rights Management. It also makes it illegal to defeat any such protection designed to prevent access to that material [...] […] DCMA makes it illegal to produce, sell, or distribute any device designed to defeat any form of Digital Rights Management. It also makes it illegal to defeat any such protection designed to prevent access to that material […]

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By: Josh the Aspie’s Blog » Blog Archive » HDCP - Part 1: What it is, What it Does http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/25/drm-what-does-it-stand-for-what-should-it-stand-for/#comment-396 Josh the Aspie’s Blog » Blog Archive » HDCP - Part 1: What it is, What it Does Tue, 31 Jul 2007 10:06:38 +0000 http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/25/drm-what-does-it-stand-for-what-should-it-stand-for/#comment-396 [...] form of DRM invented by Digital Content protection LLC, a subsidiary of [...] […] form of DRM invented by Digital Content protection LLC, a subsidiary of […]

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By: Josh the Aspie’s Blog » Blog Archive » DRM - Why Big Media Wants DRM in General http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/25/drm-what-does-it-stand-for-what-should-it-stand-for/#comment-401 Josh the Aspie’s Blog » Blog Archive » DRM - Why Big Media Wants DRM in General Tue, 31 Jul 2007 23:34:05 +0000 http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/25/drm-what-does-it-stand-for-what-should-it-stand-for/#comment-401 [...] previously defined what DRM is, but why does big business want DRM at [...] […] previously defined what DRM is, but why does big business want DRM at […]

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By: Josh the Aspie’s Blog » Blog Archive » HDCP - Part 2: Problems With HDCP, and Why Big Media Uses it Anyway http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/25/drm-what-does-it-stand-for-what-should-it-stand-for/#comment-405 Josh the Aspie’s Blog » Blog Archive » HDCP - Part 2: Problems With HDCP, and Why Big Media Uses it Anyway Thu, 02 Aug 2007 05:14:48 +0000 http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/25/drm-what-does-it-stand-for-what-should-it-stand-for/#comment-405 [...] adopted HDCP, and has whole heartedly embraced DRM as a whole. In fact, the operating system treats it’s self as being a HDCP compliant device, [...] […] adopted HDCP, and has whole heartedly embraced DRM as a whole. In fact, the operating system treats it’s self as being a HDCP compliant device, […]

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