Comments on: Media PC Problems http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/23/media-pc-problems/ The thoughts of an Aspie on Technology, Politics, and Everything. - The Answer isn't always 42. Thu, 09 Sep 2010 19:22:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1.3 By: Harsan_Ronyo http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/23/media-pc-problems/#comment-344 Harsan_Ronyo Tue, 24 Jul 2007 02:11:52 +0000 http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/23/media-pc-problems/#comment-344 Heh, gotta love options. I'd hold out for the 1080P, myself...then again, it's not my money. A note, none of your stuff is Vista "content protection" ready, so, if you do spend the money, be prepared to resist going to vista until you have the money all over again. Heh, gotta love options. I’d hold out for the 1080P, myself…then again, it’s not my money. A note, none of your stuff is Vista “content protection” ready, so, if you do spend the money, be prepared to resist going to vista until you have the money all over again.

]]> By: Ryvaken http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/23/media-pc-problems/#comment-345 Ryvaken Tue, 24 Jul 2007 02:31:31 +0000 http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/23/media-pc-problems/#comment-345 I have a basically identical video card, a 19" flatscreen with DVI and another 19" flatscreen with just VGA. I can't tell the difference between the DVI and the VGA in most cases. In some cases, the DVI monitor fails spectacularly. Graphics are graphics. Go with option one and save your money for something important. I have a basically identical video card, a 19″ flatscreen with DVI and another 19″ flatscreen with just VGA. I can’t tell the difference between the DVI and the VGA in most cases. In some cases, the DVI monitor fails spectacularly.

Graphics are graphics. Go with option one and save your money for something important.

]]> By: Ryvaken http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/23/media-pc-problems/#comment-346 Ryvaken Tue, 24 Jul 2007 02:32:23 +0000 http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/23/media-pc-problems/#comment-346 Oh, and as to resisting going to Vista, resist anyway. Oh, and as to resisting going to Vista, resist anyway.

]]> By: Josh the Aspie http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/23/media-pc-problems/#comment-347 Josh the Aspie Tue, 24 Jul 2007 02:33:00 +0000 http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/23/media-pc-problems/#comment-347 Option 1 actually costs half a K more to get 1080 than getting a new graphics card. Option 1 actually costs half a K more to get 1080 than getting a new graphics card.

]]> By: Ryvaken http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/23/media-pc-problems/#comment-348 Ryvaken Tue, 24 Jul 2007 02:36:58 +0000 http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/23/media-pc-problems/#comment-348 ... Option 4. Return the monitor, get another one that has a pricetag that a sane, intelligent person would pay. I know you have the intelligence, and I'll try to help you with the sanity. Basically, if the price is expressed in terms of K, buy something else. …
Option 4. Return the monitor, get another one that has a pricetag that a sane, intelligent person would pay. I know you have the intelligence, and I’ll try to help you with the sanity. Basically, if the price is expressed in terms of K, buy something else.

]]> By: Josh the Aspie http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/23/media-pc-problems/#comment-349 Josh the Aspie Tue, 24 Jul 2007 02:41:51 +0000 http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/23/media-pc-problems/#comment-349 It's not a monitor. It's an HDTV with multiple inputs and circuitry that a monitor would not have. I don't want to get into exact costs. But to get a 1080 32" TV costs $700 more than the one I have, with the extra ports and the anti-lag add in (I haven't found another one available with the DVI input, but without the added screen resolution and anti-lag add ins). It’s not a monitor. It’s an HDTV with multiple inputs and circuitry that a monitor would not have. I don’t want to get into exact costs. But to get a 1080 32″ TV costs $700 more than the one I have, with the extra ports and the anti-lag add in (I haven’t found another one available with the DVI input, but without the added screen resolution and anti-lag add ins).

]]> By: Ryvaken http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/23/media-pc-problems/#comment-350 Ryvaken Tue, 24 Jul 2007 02:56:29 +0000 http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/23/media-pc-problems/#comment-350 So it has toys. I'm not impressed, and I maintain my point. It is a device used to turn digital information into visual information and is simply not worth that kind of money, no matter what it does in the process of converting that data. So it has toys. I’m not impressed, and I maintain my point. It is a device used to turn digital information into visual information and is simply not worth that kind of money, no matter what it does in the process of converting that data.

]]> By: Josh the Aspie http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/23/media-pc-problems/#comment-351 Josh the Aspie Tue, 24 Jul 2007 03:16:09 +0000 http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/23/media-pc-problems/#comment-351 It is also a device to turn digital information into audio, and analog information in multiple formats into visual and audio. I can hook up multiple game systems, and my computer to one of these monitors, as well as getting a feed strait from the wall. It has it's own built in speaker system as well, and I can get audio from far more sources into it than I could feed into my computer. For reference, smaller monitors than I was able to get this TV for often cost far more. Check out http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824133004 for example. It is also a device to turn digital information into audio, and analog information in multiple formats into visual and audio.

I can hook up multiple game systems, and my computer to one of these monitors, as well as getting a feed strait from the wall. It has it’s own built in speaker system as well, and I can get audio from far more sources into it than I could feed into my computer.

For reference, smaller monitors than I was able to get this TV for often cost far more.
Check out http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824133004 for example.

]]> By: Josh the Aspie http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/23/media-pc-problems/#comment-352 Josh the Aspie Tue, 24 Jul 2007 03:52:09 +0000 http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/23/media-pc-problems/#comment-352 Also, I don't intend to go to Vista, unless I have to put it in a VM to use necessary software. Also, I don’t intend to go to Vista, unless I have to put it in a VM to use necessary software.

]]> By: Auly http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/23/media-pc-problems/#comment-353 Auly Tue, 24 Jul 2007 05:19:54 +0000 http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/23/media-pc-problems/#comment-353 I've got the 19in version of this one and love it.. considering ordering this when I have the money.. http://www.amazon.com/HANNS-G-HG281DPB-Widescreen-LCD-Monitor/dp/B000TJV9KW Though there are other options. I’ve got the 19in version of this one and love it.. considering ordering this when I have the money..

http://www.amazon.com/HANNS-G-HG281DPB-Widescreen-LCD-Monitor/dp/B000TJV9KW

Though there are other options.

]]> By: Josh the Aspie http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/23/media-pc-problems/#comment-354 Josh the Aspie Tue, 24 Jul 2007 06:57:15 +0000 http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/23/media-pc-problems/#comment-354 Thank you all for the suggestions, but at this stage I'm looking at a large screen. I think I'll wind up getting a video card with an HDMI port so that I can interface with my current screen. The basic requirements I'm hunting up are 1 HDMI port, that it use a PCI express port, and that it have at least 256MB of memory. The HDMI port must actually be a port, and not a converter on a DVI port (as I'm currently trying this setup, and it doesn't work). My preferences after that are (in the following order): Reliability, that it use 128 bit GDDR3 or above, that it is based on the 7600GT graphics chip set (so that it can be SLI'd with my current one), and finally, if it could have a VGA adapter on it to, that'd be just plain old keen. And of course, lower cost is better than higher cost. For those that don't know, GDDR2 and above are special memory types designed for graphics cards. Larger numbers mean later (and more advanced) memory types. I'm currently searching for such graphic cards myself, but if anyone runs across one with a similar setup, please let me know. Thank you all for the suggestions, but at this stage I’m looking at a large screen. I think I’ll wind up getting a video card with an HDMI port so that I can interface with my current screen.

The basic requirements I’m hunting up are 1 HDMI port, that it use a PCI express port, and that it have at least 256MB of memory. The HDMI port must actually be a port, and not a converter on a DVI port (as I’m currently trying this setup, and it doesn’t work).

My preferences after that are (in the following order): Reliability, that it use 128 bit GDDR3 or above, that it is based on the 7600GT graphics chip set (so that it can be SLI’d with my current one), and finally, if it could have a VGA adapter on it to, that’d be just plain old keen. And of course, lower cost is better than higher cost.

For those that don’t know, GDDR2 and above are special memory types designed for graphics cards. Larger numbers mean later (and more advanced) memory types.

I’m currently searching for such graphic cards myself, but if anyone runs across one with a similar setup, please let me know.

]]> By: Josh the Aspie http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/23/media-pc-problems/#comment-357 Josh the Aspie Wed, 25 Jul 2007 02:45:22 +0000 http://blog.joshtheaspie.com/2007/07/23/media-pc-problems/#comment-357 I'm currently looking at two different cards. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000S5ZQXS/ref=nosim/?tag=dealtime-ce-feed-20&creative=380333&creativeASIN=B000S5ZQXS&linkCode=asn and http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150235&ATT=14-150-235&CMP=OTC-d3alt1me&cm_mmc=OTC-d3alt1me-_-Video+Cards-_-XFX-_-14150235 Any more advanced cards with HDMI cost far more, is also HDCP compliant, which is something I am definitely interested in avoiding. Unfortunately, it seems that my television IS HDCP (High-Bandwidth Content Protection) compliant. I'm not sure if this will cause problems, or is a part of the problem that I was experiencing on my TV earlier in connection with my DVI conversion. Outputting from a HDCP compliant source to a non-HDCP compliant device will cause the resolution to be drastically cut, but I'm not sure if outputting from a non-HDCP compliant device to a compliant device will cause problems. It doesn't matter nearly so much, as at this point I will almost definitely be returning it in order to buy one that is not HDCP compliant. I may wind up buying a large monitor that is not HDCP compliant, and simply use the surround sound system I've been meaning to get for audio, if I can find a high quality, low cost switcher for the inputs. I’m currently looking at two different cards.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000S5ZQXS/ref=nosim/?tag=dealtime-ce-feed-20&creative=380333&creativeASIN=B000S5ZQXS&linkCode=asn
and
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150235&ATT=14-150-235&CMP=OTC-d3alt1me&cm_mmc=OTC-d3alt1me-_-Video+Cards-_-XFX-_-14150235

Any more advanced cards with HDMI cost far more, is also HDCP compliant, which is something I am definitely interested in avoiding.

Unfortunately, it seems that my television IS HDCP (High-Bandwidth Content Protection) compliant. I’m not sure if this will cause problems, or is a part of the problem that I was experiencing on my TV earlier in connection with my DVI conversion.

Outputting from a HDCP compliant source to a non-HDCP compliant device will cause the resolution to be drastically cut, but I’m not sure if outputting from a non-HDCP compliant device to a compliant device will cause problems. It doesn’t matter nearly so much, as at this point I will almost definitely be returning it in order to buy one that is not HDCP compliant. I may wind up buying a large monitor that is not HDCP compliant, and simply use the surround sound system I’ve been meaning to get for audio, if I can find a high quality, low cost switcher for the inputs.

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